Midlands News: 05.07.1962: Colin Jordan Interview

Colin Jordan (1923 – ) is a longstanding supporter of national socialism and has belonged to several British fascist organisations. Shortly after World War 2 he formed a “nationalist club” in Birmingham. Between 1955 and 1956 he was the Midlands Organizer of the League of Empire Loyalists. In 1956 he formed the White Defence League (WDL) and began publishing the racialist journal “Black and White News” which promoted race hatred. In 1959 he was appointed National Organiser of the British National Party (BNP) [this was a neo-facist party active 1959-1962, not directly related to the current BNP]. On 20/4/1962 Jordan launched the National Socialist Movement, and was sent to prison later that year for organising a para-military group. In July 1962 the National Socialist Movement held their first rally in Trafalgar Square promoting a campaign to ‘Free Britain from Jewish control’ this meeting (at which Colin Jordan spoke) descended into a riot and is the background to this interview. Colin Jordan was suspended from his teaching position at Stoke Secondary Modern Boys School on the 4th of July. In 1968 he founded the Coventry based “British Movement”.

Summary Bob Gillman interviews the fascist leader and Coventry school teacher Colin Jordan.

Bob Gillman (reporter) and Colin Jordan sit opposite each other on chairs. The reporter holds a microphone. Reporter: Mr. Jordan what will you do if you lose your job as a teacher? Jordan: Well, I shall obviously look for some other job. That might be a full time political job, I don’t know at the moment. Reporter: Have you done anything else but teaching? Jordan: Oh yes. I’ve been a commercial traveller at an earlier stage. Reporter: Do you think its justifiable for someone with your political views to be a teacher? Jordan: Certainly, If they keep their views out of the classroom as I have done throughout and that fact has been testified by my superiors in the profession. Reporter: Surely when you get involved in political activities like those in Trafalgar Square at the weekend – that must have an affect on your pupils. Jordan: The scenes in Trafalgar Square, the disorder, was entirely due to a gang of 150 Jews and Communists who went there with one intention, and that of breaking up the meeting. Now, there are many teachers who are associated prominently with extreme views of one sort or another. There are teachers in Coventry who go to school with a ‘Ban the Bomb’ badge, who’ve been fined for demonstrations, in one sort or another, there are many communists, why just myself? Reporter: If you hadn’t been in Trafalgar Square, propounding these views – these demonstrations wouldn’t have occurred. You must agree with that? Jordan: There would have been no trouble in Trafalgar Square on Sunday, if there hadn’t been a hundred and fifty people there with the intention, clearly revealed, before the meeting, of breaking it up, a group almost entirely composed of Jews and Communists, waving red flags. Reporter: You do agree that the majority of people in this country must take exception to your political views? Jordan: I think the majority of people in this country are sick and tired of coloured immigration, sick and tired of Jewish control, and given the chance of expressing their opinions would be in my favour on these points. Reporter: Now would you answer the question? Do you agree the majority of people in this country would not agree with your political views? Jordan: No, not for one moment. I’ve just indicated that I believe the majority would agree with my basic principles, certainly. Reporter: What do you feel about Jewish children in the school? Jordan: I personally feel that the sooner they and their parents take themselves to Israel, which is their country, the better for this country. Reporter: Do you feel that this tempers your treatment of them in school? Are there any Jewish boys in your class? Jordan: Not that I am aware of, but if there were I certainly shouldn’t take it out on a young child. This is a policy of ours which we put forward in a responsible fashion. To be adopted by the country as a whole, not something to be pursued through petty spite. Reporter: If you has a son at school, would you want him to be taught by a jew or a communist? Jordan: Certainly not. Reporter: And what would you do about it? Jordan: If I had a son and there was a danger of him being taught by a Jew I should do my best to remove him from the clutches of the Jew. Because this is England, he would be an English boy and I should be an English parent. Reporter: Therefore, you wouldn’t be surprised if parents tried to take their sons away from your class? Jordan: Not if Jews did not, no. Reporter: What if all, any other parents who didn’t agree with your politics? Jordan: I think that the opposition in this particular case is coming primarily from the Jews, I know more than that – I’m certain of it, I’ve been told by the Jews themselves, that they are going to get me out of my job, that they have the power to do it, it looks certainly as though they are trying. Whether they’ll succeed is in the lap of the God. Reporter: During the war you fought against the Nazis but now you appear to be advocating Nazi principles. Jordan: Well, first of all that’s some years ago, that’s quite correct. I volunteered when, shortly after leaving school. Later on, shall we say, my ideas began to crystallize and certainly if I had my time again I would say the last war was a mistake from the British point of view. Reporter: And you still feel that holding all these views its reasonable for people to allow you to go into school and teach their children? Jordan: Certainly, because I don’t teach these views in school. I teach boys of eleven or twelve, very simple arithmetic and very simple English. And if you can find a way of injecting my sort of views into very simple arithmetic, you’re a cleverer man than I am. [3 minutes 32 seconds]

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